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leadfoot 08-29-2009 03:34 PM

Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
A lot of people have them, esp. in sunnier climes and newer homes. The sliding glass doors on my house are my biggest security concern. Short of blocking them in, what's the best way to secure them for SHTF but still remain in code for today?

Googling doesn't seem to turn up anything designed to provided high-security for sliding glass doors. 99% of the suggestions involve slide bars and putting in screws to prevent the door from being lifted out of it's tracks.

My first step I think will be to apply that security/hurricane film to keep the glass from easily being bashed in. This will only deter unmotivated pests and briefly slow down anyone else so something better is needed.

Maybe those folding scissor grates that gets bolted to the wall would work but I have not been able to find anything.


What have other people done and/or suggest? (besides move)

MilitantOne 08-29-2009 04:14 PM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
What about those roll down security gates that you
see for store fronts. They are also code approved.

http://www.mr-locks.com/products/151...n_Gates_(RDG)/

mayhem 08-29-2009 04:55 PM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
I plan on just putting up my hurricane panels, leaving about 6 inches to be able to see out of..

Ideally a wall of sandbags would be the best.

leadfoot 08-30-2009 12:00 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 1893224)
I plan on just putting up my hurricane panels, leaving about 6 inches to be able to see out of..

Ideally a wall of sandbags would be the best.

Most hurricane panels are installed on the outside and hence can be removed from the outside.

I also wouldn't want to block my means of egress via the rear of the house like that. Something that can be locked/unlocked is needed.

harper 08-30-2009 12:49 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
look into some of the newer coatings/film. I had a friend who was working for a while applying film to federal building windows that supposedly will stop a .22. it wont stop the motivated, but it'll slow them down a bit.

<SLV> 08-30-2009 07:37 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
If it isn't tempered glass you should apply a security laminate to make it impossible to break. Locking the frame is another thing. My grandparents always put a piece of 2x4 in the track at night. You also might want to consider a decortaive iron security door on the outside.

maddyn99 08-30-2009 08:27 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
IF your going to go to that much trouble why not just replace it with a regular door or french doors? Anthing bolted to the inside will be ugly and cumbersome at best and anything outside is removable. Although if you dont want to replace it, the roll up doors are probably your best option. Something like they have at malls and schools.

http://www.americansecuritysolutions.com/rolling.html


Although thats probably just as expensive as replacing your door, but you still have a nice glass sliding door with security now.

This would work as well, but is Ugly IMO.

http://www.wholesalegate.com/doublegates.html

mayhem 08-30-2009 10:43 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leadfoot (Post 1893750)
Most hurricane panels are installed on the outside and hence can be removed from the outside.

I also wouldn't want to block my means of egress via the rear of the house like that. Something that can be locked/unlocked is needed.

You don't get it. Not everyone is a idiot. I can install those panels where you can't remove the attachment bolts unless you have a impact wrench to remove them. I don't know of many zombies who come with generator, compressor, and impact wrench.

I would only want out fast in case of fire. I have other exits, and would not depend upon the sliders for a exit.

toothfairy 08-30-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
you can buy security doors that are placed very similar to how window security bars are placed, they are bolted in with large lag bolts to the studs and then the heads are cut off. You can't remove them except with a torch or a grinder and lots of time. We had some on our house when we bought it. They had a track on the top and a pretty convincing deadbolt. It was like living in a prison, so we removed them. I have often wished we hadn't. It was decorative wrought iron stuff. Won't stop a bullet but would stop zombies pretty good. We had other unprotected windows so it didn't seem like it would really matter. If they want in, they're going to get in, or burn you out.

TTAZZMAN 08-30-2009 11:30 PM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
.....i have seen burglerys where they used a battery powered sawzall and cut their own hole..

12ga or a Doberman ....makes for a pretty good deterent

Camp Bassfish 08-31-2009 08:01 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
If you have any regular glass windows in the house, I wouldn't be all that worried about the doors.

Jimfrancisco 08-31-2009 09:54 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
A Mossberg secures them pretty well.

Willie Peter 08-31-2009 10:03 AM

Re: Need help securing sliding glass doors
 
Drill a hole through the frames and insert a steel pin, it immobilizes the doors


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